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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://johnthomson.org/blog/2007/11/01/blog-types-and-community/comment-page-1#comment-4950</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jerry,
Sorry to take so long; my Wordpress didn&#039;t alert me to your reply.

While something like Gizmodo or Slashdot gets labeled a blog simply because it technically follows the &quot;timed posting&quot; model, I wonder if what separates them from a more traditional blog is personality or voice. For example, CNet features a number of &quot;blogs,&quot; but all seem to fall under the larger editorial umbrella of CNet.com.  This is off the top of my head, but perhaps a blog leans more towards traditional media when it loses a more personal editorial voice.  Wired has great writers, but they don&#039;t give the same &quot;feel&quot; as a letter from a friend.

You might search my blog for comments on editors for more of my feelings on the issue.

Thanks for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jerry,<br />
Sorry to take so long; my WordPress didn&#8217;t alert me to your reply.</p>
<p>While something like Gizmodo or Slashdot gets labeled a blog simply because it technically follows the &#8220;timed posting&#8221; model, I wonder if what separates them from a more traditional blog is personality or voice. For example, CNet features a number of &#8220;blogs,&#8221; but all seem to fall under the larger editorial umbrella of CNet.com.  This is off the top of my head, but perhaps a blog leans more towards traditional media when it loses a more personal editorial voice.  Wired has great writers, but they don&#8217;t give the same &#8220;feel&#8221; as a letter from a friend.</p>
<p>You might search my blog for comments on editors for more of my feelings on the issue.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://johnthomson.org/blog/2007/11/01/blog-types-and-community/comment-page-1#comment-4948</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I stumbled across this post as I was looking around for people struggling with defining and categorizing what many people call &quot;blogs.&quot;

Thanks, John for you work in this area.  I&#039;m head of strategic planning for a marketing communications firm (www.brodeur.com).  I find that understanding what is (and is not) a &quot;blog&quot; is no small task.

The question I&#039;d pose is this:  when does a blog become simply the label of a format for what otherwise appears to be mainstream media?  Is Gizmodo a blog or simply an electronic magazine.  HuffingtonPost?  TechCrunch?  GigaOm?

I believe they share more points in common with traditional media than with the humble origins of personal web logs.  And Gawker?  Federated?  What about the blog syndicates?  They&#039;re looking more and more like Hearst and Gannett.

Best,

Jerry Johnson
www.jerrysjuicebar.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I stumbled across this post as I was looking around for people struggling with defining and categorizing what many people call &#8220;blogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks, John for you work in this area.  I&#8217;m head of strategic planning for a marketing communications firm (www.brodeur.com).  I find that understanding what is (and is not) a &#8220;blog&#8221; is no small task.</p>
<p>The question I&#8217;d pose is this:  when does a blog become simply the label of a format for what otherwise appears to be mainstream media?  Is Gizmodo a blog or simply an electronic magazine.  HuffingtonPost?  TechCrunch?  GigaOm?</p>
<p>I believe they share more points in common with traditional media than with the humble origins of personal web logs.  And Gawker?  Federated?  What about the blog syndicates?  They&#8217;re looking more and more like Hearst and Gannett.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jerry Johnson<br />
<a href="http://www.jerrysjuicebar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jerrysjuicebar.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jih-Hsuan Lin (Tammy)</title>
		<link>http://johnthomson.org/blog/2007/11/01/blog-types-and-community/comment-page-1#comment-4898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jih-Hsuan Lin (Tammy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI John:

Thanks for the great post! I cited your blog typology in my class construct paper about blog, and it&#039;s really great! I would add more examples of the &quot;network&quot; blogs--Blogs function in MSN instant messanger: you can open the reading limit to only few friends who are in your MSN friend lists. The same is my Taiwaness blog that I can add friends who have the blog&#039;s account and only those friends can read or comment on my blogs. 

Therefore, I think network blogs can fit into the four catogories of blogs you mentioned. Maybe I would say it&#039;s just the function that bloggers can decide who can read or who can comment their blogs instead of a new category of blog. This &quot;audience&quot; function exists in the four kinds of blogs too: Different levels of bloggers contribute to the content (individual, group, submission, mixed), and these blogs can dicide who can read and who can comment. 

In my paper I try to define what blog is and I argue that if nobody &quot;can&quot; read your blog--although it turns out to be an online private journal--the form is still a blog. I know some people would argue that the essence of blogs is &quot;community&quot;, but blog users use blogs in so many different ways. One of my professor said maybe it&#039;s time to give a new name of the &quot;blog.&quot; 

Thanks a lot for this great idea! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI John:</p>
<p>Thanks for the great post! I cited your blog typology in my class construct paper about blog, and it&#8217;s really great! I would add more examples of the &#8220;network&#8221; blogs&#8211;Blogs function in MSN instant messanger: you can open the reading limit to only few friends who are in your MSN friend lists. The same is my Taiwaness blog that I can add friends who have the blog&#8217;s account and only those friends can read or comment on my blogs. </p>
<p>Therefore, I think network blogs can fit into the four catogories of blogs you mentioned. Maybe I would say it&#8217;s just the function that bloggers can decide who can read or who can comment their blogs instead of a new category of blog. This &#8220;audience&#8221; function exists in the four kinds of blogs too: Different levels of bloggers contribute to the content (individual, group, submission, mixed), and these blogs can dicide who can read and who can comment. </p>
<p>In my paper I try to define what blog is and I argue that if nobody &#8220;can&#8221; read your blog&#8211;although it turns out to be an online private journal&#8211;the form is still a blog. I know some people would argue that the essence of blogs is &#8220;community&#8221;, but blog users use blogs in so many different ways. One of my professor said maybe it&#8217;s time to give a new name of the &#8220;blog.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for this great idea! <img src='http://johnthomson.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://johnthomson.org/blog/2007/11/01/blog-types-and-community/comment-page-1#comment-4897</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right...I&#039;d agree that it&#039;s all about the network.  That&#039;s the one strength of Robin @ CyberSocâ€™s types over mine in that the focus there is over how information is shared rather than created. More private, social network-y blogs really focus on this by building on already existing networks.
I would say that a course blog does the same thing: capitalizing on an already existing social network (be it the course or a collaborative group).

Do blogs need to post to the world stage? I think of this almost in terms of the tree falling in the woods: if you post to a blog and no one (except spiders) read it--are you blogging? Or, to take another analogy, is a podcaster who isn&#039;t making an effective use of rss feeds really podcasting?

I like to try to avoid pronouncements of how a technology should be used, because there is no way to predict how users will put a technology to use. These unexpected uses are frequently the innovative sorts of ideas that push towards the &quot;next&quot; technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230;I&#8217;d agree that it&#8217;s all about the network.  That&#8217;s the one strength of Robin @ CyberSocâ€™s types over mine in that the focus there is over how information is shared rather than created. More private, social network-y blogs really focus on this by building on already existing networks.<br />
I would say that a course blog does the same thing: capitalizing on an already existing social network (be it the course or a collaborative group).</p>
<p>Do blogs need to post to the world stage? I think of this almost in terms of the tree falling in the woods: if you post to a blog and no one (except spiders) read it&#8211;are you blogging? Or, to take another analogy, is a podcaster who isn&#8217;t making an effective use of rss feeds really podcasting?</p>
<p>I like to try to avoid pronouncements of how a technology should be used, because there is no way to predict how users will put a technology to use. These unexpected uses are frequently the innovative sorts of ideas that push towards the &#8220;next&#8221; technology.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://johnthomson.org/blog/2007/11/01/blog-types-and-community/comment-page-1#comment-4895</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post John! I like that you add a &quot;Network&quot; blog into the mix, and I agree that in this case the &quot;social network&quot; doesn&#039;t only have to be a network of friends.

For the past several months we&#039;ve been exploring course blogging, which for me fits somewhere in your taxonomy between a collaborative blog and a network blog. Here, when I talk about a course blog, I&#039;m thinking of blogs that are &quot;locked down&quot; so that only students in the class can post and read content. 

While I&#039;ve had a few educational bloggers tell me that &quot;if it isn&#039;t wide open to the public, it isn&#039;t a blog,&quot; I&#039;d argue that the most important benefits of educational blogging begin when there is an audience for student writing, even if that audience is limited to the people in a particular learning community. I think your idea of a network blog fits in with this because it evokes a &quot;connected audience,&quot; an audience that shares a set of friends, experiences, or in the case of course blog, a set of educational interests and goals.

I could see similar benefits in a private &quot;network&quot; blog for a professional community, a research team, a working group, or any other &quot;social network&quot; that wants to blog for a known audience.

So, what do you think, is there a place for blogs that don&#039;t post to the &quot;world stage?&quot; If so, where do they fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post John! I like that you add a &#8220;Network&#8221; blog into the mix, and I agree that in this case the &#8220;social network&#8221; doesn&#8217;t only have to be a network of friends.</p>
<p>For the past several months we&#8217;ve been exploring course blogging, which for me fits somewhere in your taxonomy between a collaborative blog and a network blog. Here, when I talk about a course blog, I&#8217;m thinking of blogs that are &#8220;locked down&#8221; so that only students in the class can post and read content. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve had a few educational bloggers tell me that &#8220;if it isn&#8217;t wide open to the public, it isn&#8217;t a blog,&#8221; I&#8217;d argue that the most important benefits of educational blogging begin when there is an audience for student writing, even if that audience is limited to the people in a particular learning community. I think your idea of a network blog fits in with this because it evokes a &#8220;connected audience,&#8221; an audience that shares a set of friends, experiences, or in the case of course blog, a set of educational interests and goals.</p>
<p>I could see similar benefits in a private &#8220;network&#8221; blog for a professional community, a research team, a working group, or any other &#8220;social network&#8221; that wants to blog for a known audience.</p>
<p>So, what do you think, is there a place for blogs that don&#8217;t post to the &#8220;world stage?&#8221; If so, where do they fit in?</p>
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